果你自許是一個熱愛讀書的人,那知道詹宏志是誰--知道閱讀如何能夠改變人的一生。
詹宏志先生擔任過台灣兩大報--中時、聯合--的主編,出版過一千種以上的書籍,並策畫多部大放異彩的電影,如悲情城市(嘿!甚至在片中軋上一角),同時亦是著作甚豐的作家,目前是國內最受歡迎的PC HOME雜誌發行人。由於他創意十足 ,觀察敏銳 ,許多人愛稱他是趨勢專家,但他卻更希望別人記得他是一名優秀的編輯,在這次的訪問中,我們則感受到 他是一位謙和有禮、具有實踐能力的「創意人」!

(陳玲慧老師)

創意行動家


專訪PC HOME雜誌發行人 詹宏志先生

 

 

高二 1熊慧嵐


☉思想來自知識的累積

  在訪問詹先生以前,我曾抱著「惡補基本認識」的心情 讀了兩本詹先生的著作。第一本才讀到一半,我就已經對他分析的事理十分佩服了。我很好奇,他這些想法到底從哪裡 來?詹宏志先生自謙不太交際應酬的自己為「書呆子」,最 大的興趣就是看書。這個習慣可以追溯到高中時代--他人生中極為重要的轉捩點。
  初中時代的詹宏志先生成績並不理想,正值青少年時期的他血氣方剛、精力十足,在早期只看重成績的年代,功課 不好的他只好在棒球隊中棲身,尋求隊上「兄弟」的認同與 慰藉,是父母師長眼中的「壞孩子」。打架、闖禍、混噩地過了兩年;初三時,詹宏志突然對未來感到一陣惶恐,這份 惶恐促使課業荒蕪多年的他重拾書本,只是多年的空白讓他對幾近全新的課本束手無策。在無計可施的情況下,詹宏志只好把課本一字不漏地背下來,竟然讓他考上了第一志願。 這件事跌破了大家的眼鏡,也讓詹宏志開始省思--既然有這 樣的機會,何不認真充實目己?此時,詹宏志先生遇到一位 至今仍令他感念不已的國文老師,她相當看重詹宏志敢說敢 寫的特質,認為他是可造之材,因此,常帶詹宏志回家吃飯,堅持要身為哲學教授的先生和他聊天,啟發他的思想。 為了不使老師失望、為了在每次交談中有更好的表現,詹宏志開始大量的閱讀,課內書再也不能滿足他的需求,閱讀的 觸角從此無邊無際地向四方伸展開來。
   問到詹宏志對事物的idea哪裡來?詹先生謙稱並不足自 己有什麼獨特的思想,而是靠多年閱讀的知識累積,在腦中 反覆思索五年、十年,甚至二十年的結果,大家或許會訝異 於他的一語驚人,事實上這卻可能是他從一百句話中提鍊得來的。

 

☉ 「知識就是力量」

  當詹宏志得到生平第一份像樣的薪水時,他在將近四年的時間中,每個月用四分之一的薪水訂購了一套大英百科, 從這也可看出他對知識追求的用心與執著,對他來說,百科全書是暫時的知識總佔有,替通往浩瀚無邊的各項學問開了 一扇門,進而引發他深入了解的好奇和渴望,日日向其叩問請益的結果,使得他在編輯的知識生產工作中表現傑出,也因此得到了更多的學習機會和經驗,在新的人事物激盪下,受益匪淺,無怪乎有人說詹宏志先生就是「知識就是力量」的最佳註腳。

☉叛逆的 「春風少年兄」

  高中以前的詹宏志功課每下愈況,得不到父母師長的肯定,把他推入更激烈叛逆的境地。也由於這段成長背景,使他更加能體會迷途少年的心境,有一段時間他曾定期和人們眼中的「不良少年」交談,傾聽他們的心聲,分享他的經 驗,因為他瞭解走岔路的代價是殘酷的。得不到關愛的孩 子,往往為得到同儕認同(唯一的慰藉),即便以身試法也在 所不惜。因此他對於自己的孩子,萬一將來犯錯,他也一定 要「給他力量和空間,和他一起渡過,讓他知道他沒有被放 棄,讓他如通自己仍是值得珍惜的」。
  說起「叛逆」,詹先生認為這其實有助於「自我」概念 的形成,通過「抵抗」的行為(如看禁書),叛逆得到了實 踐,如果能對叛逆施以適度的管理,反而有助於自信的建 立。在知識建立的過程中,常會衝撞社會規範,因為若僅按 規訓吸收知識,往往會把思想逼入一片死寂。對孩子來說, 不過份設限並適時給予意見比嚴厲管束更能夠培養他們保有 自己,接納他人的能力,以讀禁書的例子來說,當他的孩子 想讀腊筆小新或七龍珠時,他尊重他的決定,但詹先生一定 也跟著看,想辦法跟他討論,讓他不要誤以為書上講得都是真理。他笑說閱讀求知上的叛逆總比生活行為上的叛逆來得 安全多吧。

☉ 「磁性書寫的時代」

  創刊三年來迅速崛起的PC HOME雜誌,目前發行量己突 破十萬份,徹底顛覆在台灣「要害一個人,就叫他辦雜誌」 的想法。談起這本他一手催生的雜誌,詹宏志謙稱這種他學 習電腦的挫折經驗有關。40歲才起步學電腦的他,實在不願 意和小朋友們一塊擠電腦班,於是決定自己買雜誌、書籍回 來自修,只是當時市面上的電腦用書多半繁瑣枯燥,不良的 排版與黑白印刷更是一點都無法令人提起學習的興趣,在詹 宏志眼中,那都只是「很會的人寫給有點會的人看的」,毫 不友善。他覺得,一份好的學習雜誌,應該為讀者設想周 到,無論在視覺上,設計上(美編攝影)、表達上,都該採用 更愉快的型態呈現。於是乎,PC Home就此誕生,讀者熱情 的回饋也宣告一個「磁性書寫的時代」終以雷霆萬鈞之勢到臨。
   說到電腦,自然不能不提 「威力強大」的網際網路, Internet的日漸普遍,對世界的影響和改變是無遠弗界的。 而為應付瞬息萬變的情勢,我們這群新世代要具備什麼條件 才不會在時代的洪流中慘遭滅頂呢?詹宏志先生指出「培養 獨立學習的能力」是日後發展的不二法門,也唯有如此,我 們才可能在典範轉移時,能快速順利的重新學習,在任何時 候,都能與時俱進。
   想要能培養這種能力,可從了解書目類別,熟悉工其書 種類下手,並練習用自己的話把別人的見解說清楚,這樣才 能表示你是不是真的看懂了,讀通了。就學生來說,沒有比 做報告更能養成這種能力的方法了,學生做報告的價值不在 於是否能提出驚人的創見,而是在過程中所受的訓練,這點 是台灣值得大力提倡的。
   訪問終至尾聲,臨別之際詹宏志先生送給我們青年學子 一句話:「盡你所能,多看世界。」

 
-Interview with Mr. Jan, the Man who
              Traded his Lunch for Books

by Charlin Lu (11) and Kevin Duh ( 12)

We started the interview with a package of chocolate chip cookies. He looked at the cookies and told us that he couldn't eat them because he had just gotten seven of his teeth pulled, but we were welcome to munch away, even though he'd envy us very much. Then he started introducing himself.
  "I'm a bookworm, "was the first thing out of his mouth. He explained that he loved to read. He would spend his lunch money on books. He told us proudly, "I could save enough allowance to buy a book if I didn't eat lunch for three days. "When he was older and had a job, he spent up to a quarter of his salary every month on Encyclopedia Britannica for almost four years. His parents thought that he was crazy to be buying Encyclopedia Britannica with the money that could have been saved to buy an apartment at that time, but he ignored their advice, continuing to invest large portions of his salary in books. He felt encyclopedias were especially wonderful, since they contain summaries of all the knowledge in the world. For any other person, this might leave one feeling self-contented with the increased knowledge. Not for him. As a matter of fact, reading an encyclopedia merely whetted his appetite for more books. To him, the encyclopedia opens " doors of curiosity. "
  Has he always been such an avid book-lover? No, he admitted to being a " bad boy " in elementary school and junior high. Back then when sports teams were the last resorts of the academically hopeless, he had been on the baseball team. Every sports team back then was like a little gang of its own, and his baseball team was no exception. He had been drawn more and more into the little "gang " because teachers and parents saw him as hopeless. "Back in my days, "he said, "there were two things that parents might do if you failed academically. One was to beat you repeatedly; the other was to profusely express their disappointment. "To show their disappointment in his poor grades, his parents did not attend his sixth grade graduation ceremony. Looking back, he now realizes what a poor and dangerous decision they had made. Instead of making him work harder, he had been deeply hurt and thus grew even more defiant. His teammates were his only source of comfort. So if one gangster buddy suggested that he beat up someone, he readily agreed to do it. Growing up in this situation, he made a promise to himself that he would always remain his children's best friend. For even a bad kid deserves to feel that he is loved and that life is worth living.
  His turning point came in his freshman year. As the high school entrance exams approached, he suddenly felt an intense fear of tumbling into a hopeless future. So he began studying, something very new to him. Unsure of how to study properly, he simply memorized all his textbooks. Indeed, with all the cramming, he surprised everyone and got into the best high school. However, he was not able to understand anything in high school, for he understood little of his memorized textbooks.
  Fortunately, he met a teacher who recognized his potential and expressed high hopes in him. Hoping to enlighten him on the joy of living, his teacher would often take him home to converse with her husband, a philosophy professor. He was so touched by his teacher's caring for him that he vowed never to let her down. And he never did. A single teacher with faith in his ability to excel was enough to change his entire life.
  At first, he studied hard to fill up all the void created in his previous school years. Gradually, learning became fun. He was so awed by the sagacity of the philosophy professor that he ventured to be like him. Later, he no longer needed incentives to study hard: learning had become an enjoyable habit. Soon he had read so many books that he could tell the book's publisher just by its smell!
  His big-time magazine PC Home began out of this love of learning. He started lo learn about computers at the age of forty, meeting various difficulties. There were few computer handbooks on the market that were user-friendly to the computer illiterate. He wished that other people would not experience the same difficulties he had encountered. And like all men of action, he started the magazine PC Home. Everywhere in bookstores we can see his dream become a reality, sitting nicely on the bookshelves.
  As for his suggestions to us high school students, he urged students "to learn how to learn by yourself. " No knowledge stands true forever. The earth was flat, and now it's round: we were in the center of the universe, and now we are just a tiny speck on one of the spiral arms of the galaxy. Who knows whether or not what we learn now will still be true in the future? So we can never depend on the knowledge we have at present; instead, we can only depend on the fact that we can learn constantly. Therefore, learning how to learn by yourself is the single most important thing to learn in school.
  Then, how do we learn how to learn? He suggested that we get into the habit of asking questions. "It's good to be a little rebellious sometimes, "he said. We should not wholly accept what the books have taught us. Rather, think for yourself, welcome doubts, and ask questions. " You need a little rebellion from the established knowledge to establish your own self- identity, "he said. For example, at college he would read some books banned by the government back then, just to know why they were banned. Therefore, he urges us to read widely and question what you read.
  As the interview was nearing an end, he told us about his vision of the future and how we should prepare ourselves mentally. The Internet will no doubt become even more integrated into our daily lives. And with it will come both the ugliness and the beauty of human nature, for the Internet is simply a mirror of society. Shall we embrace it warmly, or shall we despise it? He prefers to look on the good side of things, that although society has many problems, humans will not cease to look for solutions. Society may not be perfect, but it will become better as each person creates a dream.
  Finally, as we left his office reluctantly, he gave us a last word of advice: "Go out into the world and learn as much as you can! "